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ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook   Jason Ramirez Apr 06, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Nevine Jacob Apr 10, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Jason Ramirez Apr 11, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Nevine Jacob Apr 11, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Jason Ramirez Apr 11, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Nevine Jacob Apr 11, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Benjamin Richards May 21, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Regavan Kumar May 26, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Andy Wightman Jun 08, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Arthur O'Sullivan Aug 02, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   James Ragsdale Jun 15, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   David Judi Jun 28, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Nathan Banks Jun 29, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Matthew Lewis Jul 18, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Keith Scott Jul 25, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Jason Kindall Jul 25, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Christian Spanring Aug 20, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   m Schwartz Nov 27, 2006
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   William Woodward Jan 14, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Feb 05, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Andrew Blakey Feb 23, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Apr 10, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Debbie Marshall Apr 10, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Apr 10, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Debbie Marshall Apr 10, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Apr 10, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Debbie Marshall Apr 10, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Debbie Marshall Jun 06, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Jun 28, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Debbie Marshall Jul 12, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Andrew Blakey Jul 12, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Brian Ray James Jul 15, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Rebeca Justicia Jul 16, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Christian Spanring Jul 17, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Andrew Blakey Jul 17, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Zack Reska Aug 09, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Mars Sjoden Jun 16, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Sherry Wood Sep 05, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Debbie Marshall Sep 05, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   M Ruiz Sep 14, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Mike Taylor Oct 17, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Chad Cooper Oct 17, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Mike Taylor Oct 17, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Dana Oppenheim Oct 23, 2007
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Norman Pillsbury Mar 30, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Chad Cooper Mar 31, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   teran williams Nov 11, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   teran williams Nov 11, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Nov 11, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   teran williams Nov 11, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Rebeca Justicia Nov 11, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Rebeca Justicia Nov 11, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Scott Childress Nov 12, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Chad Cooper Nov 12, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Scott Childress Nov 12, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Nov 12, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Christian Spanring Nov 13, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Scott Childress Nov 13, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Nov 13, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Kevin Heard Dec 12, 2008
Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbo...   Eric Thoman Dec 12, 2008
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Subject ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Jason Ramirez 
Date Apr 06, 2006 
Message First let me say I am a Windows user, and have used ESRI products for over 12 years. I also know that ArcGIS is not supported for the Mac platform. However, as part of my current employment, I have to support a senior executive who only uses Macs.

In order to grant functionality of a VBA tool we created in ArcGIS, we had to get ArcGIS running on a MacBook. After trying Virtual PC, we had things running, but performance was abysmal.

We tried the recently publicized Mac hack that was out there to allow a dual boot of Mac OS and Windows, but it was flaky, and not feasible.

Then, yesterday Apple announced the release of Boot Camp Beta (http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/bc/nph-bc) which will allow Intel-based Macs to dual boot to either Mac OS or Windows.

Today, we have ArcGIS 9.1 running on Windows XP Professional SP2 installed on a MacBook Pro (2.16GHz Intel Core Duo, 2GB 667 DDR2 - 2x1GB SO-DIMMs), and it runs quite well. We used Apple's Boot Camp software/solution.

For a non-dual boot solution, there is a visualization software package (think emulator - sort of like Virtual PC, but better performance) that released a Beta version today supporting "Mac OS X on Intel" (http://www.parallels.com/en/download/mac/). If you don't care to have to log out and restart different operating systems, this may be an alternative.

If anyone gets the Parallels or similar software working, please post here and give some feedback for performance, install, or other issues.

Good luck,
Jason Ramirez
Southwestern Energy 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Nevine Jacob 
Date Apr 10, 2006 
Message I tried installing ArcView 8.0 as well as 9.0 on my Intel iMac (with Boot Camp Software) but I faced installation errors. Do you know why?

Thanks,
Nevine 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Jason Ramirez 
Date Apr 11, 2006 
Message We reformatted the MacBook Pro

Reinstalled Mac OS X 10.4, downloaded and installed all Mac OS X updates and security patches

Installed the MacBook Pro Firmware upgrade (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imacearly2006firmwareupdate10.html & http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303364)

Installed Boot Camp (http://images.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/pdf/Boot_Camp_Beta_Setup_Guide.pdf)

Ran Boot Camp

Burned a CD containing various drivers (keyboard, mouse, CD, etc)

Created a Windows XP partition (min 5GB, we did 15GB)

Begin Win XP install (MUST be Windows XP CD which includes SP2)

From within Boot Camp - insert Win XP CD and "Start Installation"

During XP install - you must select the Windows XP partition (format as FAT - which allows you to read and write Mac OS X files)

Continue XP install and have Product Key ready

When XP is installed - eject XP CD and then install the drivers you burned to CD earlier (do not cancel any driver installers, click "Continue Anyways" on stuff that has not passed windows logo testing, and be patient on "Found New Hardware" and make sure that there is not a hidden window awaiting input)

Follow installation instructions for any wizards that pop up, then - update XP with required patches and security updates.

Note: We used the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools - specifically Start > Run > "remapkey" (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&displaylang=en) to remap the "Del" key for Ctrl-Alt-Delete keystroke combination.

We have a few Mac-heads in house, one in particular, that was instrumental in the process of getting WinXP installed. He is the author, I'm just the scribe of the steps listed herein.

Good luck,
Jason Ramirez
Southwestern Energy 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Nevine Jacob 
Date Apr 11, 2006 
Message Thanks Jason. But it appears as though you are walking me through the steps for installing Windows XP on an Intel Mac using the boot camp software.

I have installed Windows on my Mac and it works fine. The problem I am having is installing ArcView on my Intel iMac (on the windows login). I would be glad if you could help me install ArcView on the Mac (without errors).

Thanks,
Nevine 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Jason Ramirez 
Date Apr 11, 2006 
Message I spoke with our Mac guy, and he said that once Windows XP was installed an updated with all the necessary security patches and updates, that installing ArcGIS desktop went off without a hitch.

I believe he mentioned that after ArcGIS desktop was installed, he subsequently installed 2 patches (ArcGIS Desktop 9.1 Map Document Performance Patch, ArcGIS Desktop 9.1 Map Document Interaction Performance Patch), but I am not sure omitting this step would preclude your install from functioning normally, or successfully installing.

Good luck,
Jason Ramirez
Southwestern Energy 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Nevine Jacob 
Date Apr 11, 2006 
Message Actually it was my friend who installed Windows on the iMac. I just confirmed with him that he did follow all the steps you mentioned except the first two steps. We did not reformat the iMac and reinstall Mac OS X 10.4. However all our updates and security patches were up-to-date.

I also assume those 2 patches may not be the reason for not installing successfully. I received those series of "retry,cancel,ignore" messages while installing the ArcGIS desktop itself.

I shall keep trying and will let you know if it worked. Thanks so much.

Regards,
Nevine 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Benjamin Richards 
Date May 21, 2006 
Message Has anyone experimented with the new 13" MacBooks (not the MacBook Pro)? I would very much like to run ArcGIS 9 using the BootCamp dual boot but like the size of the 13" MacBook better than the 15" MacBook Pro. The only big difference I can see between the 2 machines is in the graphics card. How much of an issue will this be? Please email me at br@hawaii.edu in addition to your post. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Regavan Kumar 
Date May 26, 2006 
Message Dear Nevine,

Follow these steps -

- Verify you logged in as Administrator in Windows XP.

- Go to Start->Control Panel and choose the System applet.

If you are running XP Home users, you may need to choose the "Classic View" link to be able to see the System applet.

- Now Click on the Advanced tab.

- Select the Settings button under Startup and Recovery.

- Locate and change the boot.ini, by clicking on the Edit button, and then change the string /NoExecute=OptIn to /NoExecute=AlwaysOff.

- Save the file and reboot.

Now ArcGIS should install with no error - Good Luck!

# after install you can turn /NoExecute switch back to ON

Hope this helps.

Senthil 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Andy Wightman 
Date Jun 08, 2006 
Message Delighted to have found this thread. I am off to Ethiopia for 2 years at the beginning of July. I've used Macs all my life but 4 years ago had to purchase a PC in order to run ArcGIS. I've always dreamed of a computer that can boot into OSX and Windows and with my new Macbook, I am able to venture abroad and keep up with all my GIS work.

Anyway, I installed Boot Camp and Windows then tried to install Arcview 8. I got installation errors (various .dll files not been registered)

I followed Regevan Kumar's advice above and on the 2nd try everything installed perfectly (the installation CD prompted me to first of all uninstall the first parital install - then I needed to eject the CD and pop it in again.

So a big thank you Regevan.

Now my problem is a warnign that I'm not licenced for LZW compression - I remember this from before and shall hunt for the solution.

Andy 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Arthur O'Sullivan 
Date Aug 02, 2006 
Message Hi,

I followed your advice but still received the same error message: Error 1904. Module C: Program Files\ARCGIS\Bin\XMLSupport UI.dll failed to register HRESULT -2147023898

Any suggestions appreciated.

Best regards,

Art 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author James Ragsdale 
Date Jun 15, 2007 
Message I tried Regavan Kumar's advice and had success after running into all *UI.dll's not installing. Thank you. I now have ArcGis running natively on my core2duo macbook with XP home via bootcamp and a gig of ram. I had previously had this installed via paralells and had no problems. This runs faster on my mac via parallels than any other pc I've owned (last one was a dell inspiron pentium M 2ghz). I am very satisfied with both the paralells and bootcamp solutions. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author David Judi 
Date Jun 28, 2007 
Message I have installed parallels on a mac pro and sucessfully installed visual studio 2005 and ArcGIS 9.1. Problem now is that I can't get previously developed .net solutions to build and be recognized in GIS. Has anyone dealt with the COM issues in parallels? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Nathan Banks 
Date Jun 29, 2006 
Message Hi,

I have ArcGIS 9.1 running on a new Intel-based iMac. I am using Parallels (with Win2K, SP4) and have allocated it 512MB (half of the total available). Performance is similar to the Dell it replaced and I am happy not to need to dual boot.

No major installation issues were encountered.

Attached is a screenshot if anyone's interested.

-Nathan 
  arcview_osx.jpg (opens in new window)
 
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Matthew Lewis 
Date Jul 18, 2006 
Message I have a Mac Book Pro and I have GIS installed on the Windows side of the mac, however, I can't get the thing to authorize the key file. Has anyone run into this.
I called ESRI and they gave me a new code and it still did not work. Can anyone help me?
 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Keith Scott 
Date Jul 25, 2006 
Message I am having the same problem as you describe. Have you found a solution? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Jason Kindall 
Date Jul 25, 2006 
Message For those up and running on a Macbook/Macbook Pro:

Have you had a chance to do any long-running map calculations or raster processing (think days or even weeks)? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Christian Spanring 
Date Aug 20, 2006 
Message I'm running ArcGIS 9.1 on a MacBook with Parallels over a month now. The major drawback is the video card on Parallels. My windows installation has 924MB RAM allocated (the maximum on Parallels) and ArcGIS works quite well so far, no significant performance limitations (except the fact that some Mac OS X processes are running in the background).
I had no problems during installation or recognizing the hardware key at all.
Here you'll find a description of my installation with some comments from others:
http://spanring.eu/blog/2006/07/02/arcgis-on-mac-os-x-2/

Cheers! 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author m Schwartz 
Date Nov 27, 2006 
Message Brand new to Macs, but I received one as a (very generous) present, so now I'm trying to see if it will work for me. I do a fair bit of GIS work, but nothing very intensive.

Running a MacBook (13 inch) 2Ghz, 512MB RAM, OSX 10.4, Parallels, and Windows XP, I had no trouble getting things up and running. ARC (9.1) was pretty slow, but I expected that, given that parallels only has access to 256MB of RAM (I think; so far, it's a bit unclear to me how parallels takes/distributes RAM, but I think it's limited to about half of the real machine's RAM). I will upgrade to 2G of RAM and hopefully that will make a big difference.

I'd be very interested to hear how running ARC in parallels vs. in boot camp compare speed wise. My IT dept. told me that if I installed boot camp, "I was on my own."

Thanks for the posters on this thread. Although the installation went fairly easily, I was confident enough to try thanks to having seen all the info here. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author William Woodward 
Date Jan 14, 2007 
Message Hi.

I'll be installing ArcGis 9.2 on my Macbook 13" soon. Any experience/feedback on the performance difference between bootcamp and parallels? Also, is the graphics card sufficient (is it much of a hinderance) in the 13" compared to the 15" and 17" macbook pro?

There appear to be two other options apart from bootcamp and parallels. One is Crossover Mac 6.0 by Codeweavers. With this you don't need to install Windows but it only works/is guaranteed with some tested applications. ArcGis is not one of the tested/guaranteed applications. The other is VMWare's fusion beta which appears to be similar to parallels.

All feeback/experience would be appreciated.

Thanks. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Feb 05, 2007 
Message I have ArcGIS 9.0 running via Parallels (Window XP Home Ed. w SP2)on a 17" Intel iMac with 2G Ram. Initially there were some operating system inconsistancies, which went away once I had every conceivable intel-related upgrade and update. There were some minor ArcGIS quirks to begin with (right clicking with a mighty mouse and getting F-keys to work within Windows, but once resolved it has been nothing but fun. -Slowly working my way into more demanding processes. Finally, ArcGIS on a Mac! Sort of. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Andrew Blakey 
Date Feb 23, 2007 
Message This may be a bit of a stretch, but did the mouse ball on your mighty mouse work for both axis? By default ArcMap allows you to scroll up and down using the mouse wheel, and I want to know if it will scroll right/left?

I would be using a wired mighty mouse on a PC with Arc 9.1. 
  Andrew Blakey
Geography/GIS Student
University of Waterloo 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Apr 10, 2007 
Message Nope, can't, or have not figured out how to scroll r/l 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Debbie Marshall 
Date Apr 10, 2007 
Message I have an iMAC with Intel Core Duo processor running OS X 10.4.8 using Parallels Desktop Build 1940. I have installed ArcGIS 9.2, attached the USB license key, configure License Manager using services and license files are found. When I enter my computer name in License Manager it is not recognized (i've repeated this several time and the computer name is the same as the license files ERSI sent me). Any suggestions on how I can get this to work? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Apr 10, 2007 
Message Is the USB license key something associated with a USB port? If so, check to see if Parallels recognizing that USB port. With the initial version of Parallels there was something of a port designation process (explanation comes with Parallel Tools). I've since then upgraded and have not had to revisit the process of using USB connections -yet. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Debbie Marshall 
Date Apr 10, 2007 
Message Yes, the USB license key uses a USB port and Parallels does recognize the port, ArcGIS recognizes the key and starts the server process. But when I'm asked to enter the computer name I get the error of "The computer you chose is not a vaoid license server". I entered the computer name I used to register with ERSI for the license and it's the same one on the files ERSI sent me with the license key. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Apr 10, 2007 
Message Now that's interesting. Are the computer and the virtual machine somehow out of sync for that process...? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Debbie Marshall 
Date Apr 10, 2007 
Message There are two user/accounts on this iMAC with Parallels and Windows XP installed on both. But ArcGIS is only on one account - the one I licensed with ERSI.
 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Debbie Marshall 
Date Jun 06, 2007 
Message ArcGIS 9.2 is slow running through Parallels Desktop Build 3188. I would like to know the specs on other MACs running ArcGIS. What are the minimum requirements and recommended version? Have you partitioned the harddrive and how much memory is allocated to Windows virtual machine? I have an iMAC with Intel Core Duo processor running OS X 10.4.8 with 1 GB memory. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Jun 28, 2007 
Message I'm running ArcView 9.0 on an iMac with Intel Core Duo with 2GB memory, same OS as you, I think. Can't say specifically what version of Parallels I'm running but I update regularly. I did a "quick" install, so I'm running on all default settings with the tool kit added. I have not partitioned my drive. My setup was running very comfortably until I started using shared folders between Mac OS and Virtual machine (Which is something like a partition I imagine). Things have slowed considerable since then, especially when using big rasters. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Debbie Marshall 
Date Jul 12, 2007 
Message I would like to know if using Boot Camp instead of Parallels would improve the performance of ArcGIS? I maxed my RAM to 3GB but ArcGIS still runs sluggish through Parallels.

Debbie 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Andrew Blakey 
Date Jul 12, 2007 
Message yes using Boot Camp will definitely improve performance. Parallels essentially lets you run XP as if it were an application in OSX, so you have CPU time and RAM usage devoted to running all the OS X stuff at the same time.

I've used 9.2 with both on my macbook with 2gigs of ram and it definitely helps. 
  Andrew Blakey
Geography/GIS Student
University of Waterloo 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Brian Ray James 
Date Jul 15, 2007 
Message How about video RAM? I see from above that this has been touch on a bit, but I'm going to ask again because I'm not clear on the responses.

I'm looking at getting a MacBook Pro, but can't decide between one with 128MB video RAM or one with 256MB. Would 128MB be enough or is it really necessary to have the 256MB? From one review I've seen (http://www.barefeats.com/rosa03.html) it doesn't look like it should matter, but I'd like to hear from people who are actually using these types of set ups. And any insights on how this ties to virtualization (especially VMWare's Fusion; I see many of you are using Parallels fairly successfully) would be great.

Note: This is my first time posting on the ESRI site. If I should have handled this differently or done it elsewhere, please let me know. Thanks!!!

Brian Ray James
Graduate Student - Environmental Policy & Management/Certificate in GIS
University of Denver 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Rebeca Justicia 
Date Jul 16, 2007 
Message I am also new to posting here. I used to be a hard core mac user, but had to switch a few years back because I needed to use arcview intensively. I am back in the market for a new computer and have seriously considered going back to a mac. However, I have read the threads and I am still unclear if buying a macbook pro would be the right choice. If you have used 9.2 intensively (with bootcamp I would assume)please respond. Does windows behave as natively as if running on a PC, will the computer recognize the arcgis license key? Please help make a decision. I am considering buying a macbook pro 2.4 Ghz with 2Gb ram for myself.


For my organization we would be buying a desktop; love the quality of mac machines, so both would be macs if they can handle arcgis natively, and if we could intall windows xp pro 64 bits in the desktop.

I guess is two different question, so thank you for taking the time to answer.

Rebeca 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Christian Spanring 
Date Jul 17, 2007 
Message Rebeca,

Windows XP running under BootCamp on a MacBook behaves just as on any other PC with similar hardware configuration. Windows drivers, etc. are provided by Apple (BootCamp basically is a set of drivers and a boot manager). I didn't have problems with the license key or anything else.

Of course you'll face some performance losses while working with Windows in a virtual environments like Paralles or VM under Mac OS X.

Regarding the 64 bit Windows I unfortunately don't have any experiences and can't tell whether it's working or not.

Christian 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Andrew Blakey 
Date Jul 17, 2007 
Message My experience with XP64 is this:

If you have a 64bit processor, don't think you're missing out big time without using XP64 or Vista.

I wish I could say if Arc works or how well it does, but if you have a choice, stick with regular XP and don't fear a loss of potential power with Arc. 
  Andrew Blakey
Geography/GIS Student
University of Waterloo 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Zack Reska 
Date Aug 09, 2007 
Message I don't think my question is covered here, but it's definitely related to the subject, and other posts.

I'm running 9.2 on a Mac Pro with Windows XP Pro/boot camp, and 8GB RAM. Only 2GB is allocated to Windows (using Boot Camp)and I've read on this thread and have heard of maxing Windows out at 3GB. Does anybody know the procedure to do this?
Thanks 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.2 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Mars Sjoden 
Date Jun 16, 2008 
Message I'm curious as to why you say this.

I'm running XP Pro, 32bit version on my iMac 24" and am constantly banging up against the 2Gb limit of Windows XP Pro 32bit. Really frustrating when I have 4Gb of Ram in stalled. For the type of processing I do, 2Gb is the bare minimum and I would really love to be able to address all 4Gb of RAM. Would not a 64bit Version of Vista be able to accomplish this? Or is this just one of the many problems with Windows programs built on 1990 thinking?

I would love to hear your experience, I may start testing on my MacBook Pro with Vista 64bit.

thanks. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Sherry Wood 
Date Sep 05, 2007 
Message I would like to use ArcGIS 9.2 for wildlife management projects for my biology research students. Our univ. has a site license. Would I be crazy to buy an imac with 2.0gb memory and Intel processor? How big of a hard drive is min. ? I could run under bootcamp or Parallels. I don't have a PC with system requirements and prefer have a mac for other uses.
thanks for the help
 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Debbie Marshall 
Date Sep 05, 2007 
Message I started running ArcGIS 9.2 through Parallels but it was very sluggish and since Windows ran as a virtual machine I had to initialize the site license every time I started it. So, now I use Bootcamp, have 3 GB memory and ArcGIS runs great. I use an external harddrive to move files between MAC and PC. The only downside is restarting the operating system to switch between platforms. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author M Ruiz 
Date Sep 14, 2007 
Message I am running ArcGIS 9.1 under Parallels 3.0 on a MacBook Pro. No problem with installing, license, and pulling in maps, and editing those. BIG PROBLEM with geoprocessing. Specifically, I cannot use Spatial Analyst to interpolate a grid from a set of points (Error: error in executing grid expression) and opening any of the 5-6 tools I have tried so far directly under ArcToolbox causes shut down of system.

I thought it might be a problem with with where files are going, so in trying to fix this, I went to Tools/Options/geoprocessing. When I click on the Environments button, software closes down.

Could somebody tell me if they are able to do any of these things with their setup? I am not having any problems at all with other software PC-based software under Parallels.

What does your full path look like when you see it for your files from the Parallels side? Also, any ideas on what might be going are most welcome.

thanks
Marilyn 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Mike Taylor 
Date Oct 17, 2007 
Message I currently use ArcGIS 9.2 on a 17inch Macbook Pro. I work for a GIS company. I also develop software using ArcGIS Engine on the Mac. I originally set it up with bootcamp but then parallels latest version allows you to run the bootcamp partition as the virtual machine. So I now run ArcGIS in parallels and when I need a little more juice for large processes I just switch over to windows through bootcamp. They work great together and now you use the same instance of windows for parallels and bootcamp. I've run ArcMap, ArcGIS Engne, SDE Express, and ArcGIS Explorer with no problems at all. I really think it works better then my PC that I used to have.

Mike 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Chad Cooper 
Date Oct 17, 2007 
Message Mike, how much memory does your MBP have, and what processor? I have a Core Duo with 1.5GB of RAM and am thinking about installing WinXP Pro/ArcGIS on a BootCamp partition after I upgrade to Leopard, but think I probably will have to pony up and get more RAM to get me up to 2GB. 
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Mike Taylor 
Date Oct 17, 2007 
Message My MBP has 2GB of Ram but I also have tried this on my 24inch iMac at home with 1GB and it seems to work fine as well.

Mike 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Dana Oppenheim 
Date Oct 23, 2007 
Message Hey all. Am I ever glad to find a forum of fellow Mac AND ArcGIS users. Many people have claimed what I'm trying to do is impossible. I just got an Intel MacPro with 2.2 GHz, 2GB with Parallels 3.0 and Windows XP. I installed ArcGIS 9 and everything was running smoothly but suddenly, it stopped. I am still able to use ArcCatalog but when I go to load ArcMap, it just stalls on the start-up screen. Would anyone have any insight into this issue? I am afraid that most people I would turn to either are Mac OR ArcGIS users, not both so I could really use any help on settings and parameters, etc. Thanks! 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Norman Pillsbury 
Date Mar 30, 2008 
Message Yes, yes, Same thing; same computer. It worked fine for about a week; then today major errors, starting with (1) stalled start-up screen. I kept trying and then it said (2) that my registration number was not valid, even though it showed that ArcMap was licensed in Administration. I did a repair and then removed ArcGIS 9.2 and reinstalled it. No change.

I thought if I downloaded service pack 5 it might help, but then I got more errors:

(3) "Error 1904. Module C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Bin\CadastralFabricLayerUI.dll failed to register. Contact support personnel"

and then:

(4) "The procedure entry point ?GetLength@BString@@QBEKXZ COULD NOT BE LOCATED IN THE DYNAMIC LINK LIBRARY AFCORE.Dll"

and finally:

"Runtime Error! Program: C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE. The application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way."

It was doing so good for a week. What happened? How do I fix it?

Thanks in advance. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Chad Cooper 
Date Mar 31, 2008 
Message Just went whole-hog in on Windows/ArcGIS on my Mac:

Macbook Pro, 2 Ghz Core Duo, 2GB memory, 200GB Hitachi 7200rpm 16mb cache HDD (just put that in), Leopard, WinXP as a BootCamp partition (35GB I think), VM Ware Fusion (still in trial on that one) with 1GB memory available to it and both processors

Installed new HDD and Leopard, setup BootCamp with XP, installed trial version of VM Ware Fusion, and it recognizes the BootCamp install of Windows and lets you run it as a VM. Installed ArcGIS 9.2 on the Windows side while booted into Windows. No problems thus far - I havent done much, just some simple line editing, nothing fancy or intense, and I've done all my editing while booted into Windows, not on the VM. ArcMap runs OK in the VM, I have 1GB of memory allocated to the VM and both processors. ArcMap did crash on my once when I got a little click happy, but that was probably my fault, I should know better :-).

All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised and happy. I know this much, when booted into Windows, it FLIES on my Mac. I wish Windows ran that fast on my HP laptop. 
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author teran williams 
Date Nov 11, 2008 
Message I am in the process of doing the same thing. Is it necessary to buy all that extra software? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author teran williams 
Date Nov 11, 2008 
Message Hi,
I'm grad student and bought my MacPro a few months ago. I want to run ArcView 9.2 on my Mac. From this forum, it seems possible (nobody at school thinks so). So my question is what are the best products to put on Mac - bootcamp or vmware or is there something else I don't know about. Please help. Remember I'm a rookie on the Mac and with GIS.
Gratefully,
Teran 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Nov 11, 2008 
Message I know Parallels or Bootcamp work just fine. Bootcamp is probably a more straight forward approach. You'll also need Windows (XP or Vista) for your virtual machine. Some folks have had problems with their ESRI key if your ArcGIS comes with one. Otherwise works great. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author teran williams 
Date Nov 11, 2008 
Message I just recently got a MacPro and am investigating setting up GIS 9.2
on it. I was told that bootcamp contained parallels and would not have to buy it. Can you clarify for me what bootcamp vs parallels does in running GIS on a Mac?
Thank you!!! 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Rebeca Justicia 
Date Nov 11, 2008 
Message Leopard has bootcamp. Look for the instructions in the mac website and you will figure out how to partition your hard drive and how to install windows in that PC part. That is the difference between bootcamp and parallels. If you use parallels you don't have to partition the drive; parallels emulates a PC. If you run windows with bootcamp basically you have an authentic PC; what bootcamp does is installs all the drivers that makes a MAC behave like a PC. I run ArcGIS 9.2 with bootcamp and alloted 90GB to the MAC and 60GB to the PC. If you go the bootcamp route think well how much room you will need in either environment because you can increase the mac side seamlessly but to increase the PC side basically you have to reformat the PC (install all your programs again, etc). I went for the boot camp route because I read comments that running ArcGis through Parallels is slower and I was using very large data sets; also I have a key and people say sometimes you run into problems and didn't want to risk it. ArcGIS in my MAC (2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Powerbook with Mac OSX 4GB Ram) runs really fast. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Rebeca Justicia 
Date Nov 11, 2008 
Message Keep in mind the following: when you run windows with Parallels you don't have to reboot your machine to move between MAC and PC that is the only pro of using Parallel; when you run Windows in bootcamp you have to reboot your PC to move between the MAC and the PC mode by pressing the alt bottom during start up; that is the disadvantage of bootcamp, but is faster. Hope this helps. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Scott Childress 
Date Nov 12, 2008 
Message I've been using Parallels 3.0 (Windows XP) for about 6 months now on my MBP (2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB) and haven't had many problems using 9.2, and now 9.3. Since going to 9.3 I've noticed I can't have more than 3 .mxd's open at the same time. I keep getting "FDO" errors, saying it cannot find certain layers within. My question to this group would be, what are the best performance settings I need to place on my VM so that 9.3 runs best? Any other advice out there for Mac users running 9.3? Occasionally when booting up Parallels, I get the dreaded black screen to shut down, especially if I am not connected to a power source. Other than that, I have been very impressed with the way I can use all my Windows based programs on my Mac. Glad to hear there are other users out there using Mac OS for GIS! 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Chad Cooper 
Date Nov 12, 2008 
Message To those of you thinking about running a VM on your Mac, I would highly suggest trying out trial versions of both VMWare Fusion and Parallels and do your research before you buy. Parallels gets lots of hype, but VMWare has been in the VM business for wayyy longer. I have heard that tech support at Parallels might as well not exist. Do your research before investing money and more importantly time into a VM software package. Just my 2 cents. 
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Scott Childress 
Date Nov 12, 2008 
Message Thanks for the info Chad. Luckily, I did not have to pay for Parallels and had no idea about the other VM software until I had already installed it. I'm a new Mac user so definitely will check into the VMWare.

FYI, there is a similar discussion going on here:

http://forums.esri.com/Thread.asp?c=93&f=1148&t=217626&mc=8
 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Nov 12, 2008 
Message One thing that seems to really slow things down for me is to pull data in from drives outside of the virtual machine (Mac HD, internet, CDs and DVDs). However, if on the C-drive of the VM things move nicely and fast. Faster than most PCs. I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this, and, if so, do they have a remedy? 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Christian Spanring 
Date Nov 13, 2008 
Message It was my observation too that once I moved the workspace inside the VM image things were going faster. I started moving my entire workspace because recently I ran into another problem while working on a file geodatabase in a "shared folder" (more info here: http://forums.esri.com/Thread.asp?c=93&f=2370&t=263170&mc=15).
It might not be related to the shared folder environment, but loosing an entire geodatabase ain't that fun. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Scott Childress 
Date Nov 13, 2008 
Message Good info! I'm going to try this out.

Are any of you using Parallels? If so, do you know the proper or best memory allocation settings? I think I have mine set up at 768 Mb on the virtual HD. I've heard going down to 330 helps performance??

Is there a way to map your virtual drive (C:\) on the Mac side? Reason I ask is because I use the Mac side exclusively for email, internet, etc. and so when I'm pulling down files from email, ftp I place them on my Mac HD.

Another question I have is if any of you know how to allow an external HD to be accessible on both Mac and virtual HD? It seems it only allows you to access it on one or the other at one time. I use an external drive for all my imagery, base data, etc. and it would be great to access this on my Mac side to pull files back and forth. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Nov 13, 2008 
Message I'm a Parallels user and have not tried VMWare or Bootcamp, so can't offer comparisons. I set my VM's memory to Expanadable, so it gets larger as need requires, which has worked fine for me. Parallels has gotten better and better with each version with accessability between machines.
One note to add, is that when in edit mode in ArcGIS, things get quirky when trying to edit file that exists outside of the VM. But also, the quirks you encounter will tend to reflect how you use ArcGIS. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Kevin Heard 
Date Dec 12, 2008 
Message We are having a similar problem. Did you find a solution, or is it too long ago to remember? Thanks for any help you can provide. 
   
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Subject Re: ArcGIS 9.1 working on Intel-based Macbook 
Author Eric Thoman 
Date Dec 12, 2008 
Message I'm sure there is a way the configure drives for this, but opted for the easy solution and copied file to be edited into the VM.